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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Cupidity Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:42 pm | |
| Name: Cupidity Type: Chain Whip Quantity: One Pair Description: Please see the various images for its appearance. This weapon is versatile in the way that it can be used for stabbing, as a projectile, trapping, and close-range sword fighting (essentially). The user has many options to attack their enemy just with this weapon. Each whip is made of steel, and is 15 feet long. Abilities: The first part of this weapon's ability is the reverse of Gambit's (X-men) power. While Gambit's power is to convert potential energy into kinetic energy, this weapon's ability is to do the opposite. The more movement this weapon goes through, the more energy created. Energy meaning: It is often understood as the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems. Since work is defined as a force acting through a distance (a length of space), energy is always equivalent to the ability to exert pulls or pushes against the basic forces of nature, along a path of a certain length.(1) This energy created is stored into a chakra bead that is held along the chain links of the chain whip. It will take five swings in a full circle to create one bead of energy. A wrap around a limb and then pulling off of it counts as half a swing. If thrown, one bead is created once the whip has gone two of its full length away from where it started. Only 2 beads can be created in a single post [this excludes the initial beads]. One bead is three centimeters. Another way to create the beads is through the amount of ryo on hand. As this number increases, so too does the number of beads on the chain links. The rate at which this increases is one bead per thirty thousand ryo. The chain whips automatically start off with these beads at the start of the topic, but cannot gain anymore (in this way) if posting causes the user's ryo amount to go over 30k. As the number of beads grows, the power of Haku grows stronger. As power is not a term so easily defined, in this case it is an all around stat increase, though it does not increase sensitivity. However, there is a decrease in Endurance (also Affects the speed of regeneration of wounds.), and Stamina by same amount of Increase in other stats. Attached is a spreadsheet displaying his growth in power in accordance to the amount of ryo he has on hand, and the number of times he swings his weapon. Spreadsheets are located here: Click here Summary: 30k to make a bead. 5 Swings to make a bead. ~26% Stat Increase per bead. Must have at least 200k before an increase. Stat Increases are rounded down to the nearest hundred. Credit to Sai for helping me with making the ability. History: Along with Chastity, Hakumei found this pair of weapons within the ashes of his dead parents. If he knew where his parents were sleeping as they burned to death he would know that his father in particular used this weapon while his mother would use Chastity. Appearance: - Spoiler:
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:34 am | |
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Genin
Dominic
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:54 pm | |
| Kamui has sent me a message and said that he would like to be the one to review this weapon himself first. So I am allowing him to do so, since this is based on Xanadu. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:01 pm | |
| Thank you Dom. Well, lets get down to business, may I have permission to download the documents you inserted as an attachment, Haku? |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:28 pm | |
| After asking others to look at this, I realize what you mean. I have posted a new place you can download them from. ^^" |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Alright Haku, before we begin discussions, I'll like to point out to you that this is considered an upgraded version of your previous weapon in a sense. Thus, it may cost quite a bit.
Please post again saying you agree to the above statement before we begin. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:03 pm | |
| Yeah, I figured that. I was hoping that the Greed part would count as one ability and not cost 20k and my first purchase of Greed's 5k would reduce it by that much as well. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:10 pm | |
| Indeed very true but you see here, greed's original power as created by you was increase in sharpness and hardness but now this is an increase in power where you define power as and I quote: - Quote :
- As the number of beads grows, the power of Haku grows stronger. As power is not a term so easily defined, in this case it is an all around stat increase, though it does not increase sensitivity.
which is totally a bumped up version of the original, hence, it will be more expensive. Agreed? Now for the first part: What is the weapon made off? What is the dimensions of one bead? How durable/hard is the weapon? Is a swing is considered a full circular swing? What do you mean by energy? Is it the same as Chakra? |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:22 pm | |
| Indeed very true but you see here, greed's original power as created by you was increase in sharpness and hardness but now this is an increase in power where you define power as and I quote: - Quote :
- As the number of beads grows, the power of Haku grows stronger. As power is not a term so easily defined, in this case it is an all around stat increase, though it does not increase sensitivity.
which is totally a bumped up version of the original, hence, it will be more expensive. Agreed? No.... There's 2 ways to make beads. Ryo and momentum. The ryo part should be free, but the momentum part will cost a lot. I will agree to that. Now for the first part: What is the weapon made of? Heck if I know. If I can afford it, I'd like it to be indestructible so it shouldn't much matter. What is the dimensions of one bead? Whatever is the size of the inside of a chain link. I don't know. Really it doesn't even matter because they're always inside the chain links and can't be removed or used for anything other than the ability. How durable/hard is the weapon? Hard as whatever it's made of. / Indesructible Is a swing is considered a full circular swing? I thought I said that....but yes. What do you mean by energy? Is it the same as Chakra? Why does this matter? It can only be used to make Beads. Beads can only be used for the stat increase. No one can use it any other way whatsoever. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:31 pm | |
| - Quote :
- What is the dimensions of one bead? Whatever is the size of the inside of a chain link. I don't know. Really it doesn't even matter because they're always inside the chain links and can't be removed or used for anything other than the ability
I asked because as the number of beads increase so does the range of such a weapon. Hence that is why I prefer that you specify it. - Quote :
- What do you mean by energy? Is it the same as Chakra? Why does this matter? It can only be used to make Beads. Beads can only be used for the stat increase. No one can use it any other way whatsoever.
Alright, this matters because i can see the usage of absorbing opponent's attack ninjutsu here or in more simpler terms, absorbing enemies chakra attacks. Eg. if i shot a chakra beam at you and you swing greed which absorbs the chakra as well as increasing power to yourself. Hence, if the energy you stated is considered chakra in the narutoverse then it will be quite Op. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:54 pm | |
| - Quote :
- What is the dimensions of one bead? Whatever is the size of the inside of a chain link. I don't know. Really it doesn't even matter because they're always inside the chain links and can't be removed or used for anything other than the ability
I asked because as the number of beads increase so does the range of such a weapon. Hence that is why I prefer that you specify it. BLAH for the life of my I cannot find the size of a chain link. I'll say the bead is 1 centimeter. - Quote :
- What do you mean by energy? Is it the same as Chakra? Why does this matter? It can only be used to make Beads. Beads can only be used for the stat increase. No one can use it any other way whatsoever.
Alright, this matters because i can see the usage of absorbing opponent's attack ninjutsu here or in more simpler terms, absorbing enemies chakra attacks. Eg. if i shot a chakra beam at you and you swing greed which absorbs the chakra as well as increasing power to yourself. Hence, if the energy you stated is considered chakra in the narutoverse then it will be quite Op. It...doesn't do any absorbing....It converts Kinetic Energy into Potential Energy. Y'know...the momentum part.... If you can tell me what Energy is in real life, go ahead ._. "It is often understood as the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems. Since work is defined as a force acting through a distance (a length of space), energy is always equivalent to the ability to exert pulls or pushes against the basic forces of nature, along a path of a certain length." How's that? .-. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:41 am | |
| Ok, please add that both in.
Would you mind explaining the rank part in your spreadsheet? I'm not that clear about it. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:53 am | |
| Ok, please add that both in.
Done.
Would you mind explaining the rank part in your spreadsheet? I'm not that clear about it.
Um. Yeah. Not really a reason for having it, but I do. I needed a way to increase the Stat Increase without pulling random numbers from the air, so I found it easy to assign a number to each rank, in ascending order, to affect the Stat Increase as well. If that part will cost me more I guess I'll have to find a different way to have a good Stat Increase with the numbers I have =/
Edit: Edits I will be making: Chain length will be 15ft (each) Beads will be 3 cm Adding Baseline of 20k in Spreadsheet; Uploading New Spreadsheets: http://www.mediafire.com/?w6z4g6raqq95y Adding in Drawbacks: Decrease of Endurance (also Affects the speed of regeneration of wounds.) by same amount of Increase in other stats, Increased Fatigue (Decreased Stamina) Made of Steel. (Don't care what metal really)
Will that be all? Price of this and Price of this plus Indestructibility needed. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:54 am | |
| Everything is ok for now except that I need to look deeper into the calculation. Also when I say a baseline of 20k ryo = 20 beads, it doesn't increase your stats yet. only after 20k ryo beads it'll increase your stats, below 20k ryo it'll decrease in stats. You always make hard equations to deal with. Lol. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:03 pm | |
| Ah, sorry, I did have that already included in the .ods spreadsheet, but I guess I forgot to update the .xls. You can download either now, as they both have the updated calculations. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:22 pm | |
| Hmm.. after doing some clicks and all that, I believe 1k per bead is not viable, please put it so that its 3k per bead. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:42 pm | |
| Edited to that specification. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:56 am | |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:25 am | |
| Yeah, one of my previous posts, not the original topic post. |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:41 am | |
| Alright, please add in as well that it will always be rounded down to the nearest hundred for the stat increase. Furthermore, note that as you become stronger in one region (Strength and speed), you become weaker in another (Endurance and Stamina). |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:09 pm | |
| As I said it would be added, it has been added. The spreadsheet has also been edited. (I googled it and learned how to round to the nearest hundred, woo! XD) The same link works, as it is a shared folder and not sole files. Any other edits necessary? |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:36 pm | |
| Let me test if you got the rounded down to the nearest hundred right before I approve it.
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Tell me what is the rounded down version of these to the nearest hundred. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:26 pm | |
| - Kamui wrote:
- Let me test if you got the rounded down to the nearest hundred right before I approve it.
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Tell me what is the rounded down version of these to the nearest hundred. 200 500 400 |
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Genin
Kamui
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:24 am | |
| Very well then. Approved but please get Dom to read though to see if its ok and let him price accordingly. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Cupidity Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:04 am | |
| Summary added for Dom's sake.
Summary: 3k to make a bead. 5 Swings to make a bead. ~26% Stat Increase per bead. Must have at least 20k before an increase. Stat Increases are rounded down to the nearest hundred. |
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