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Jounin

Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 5:29 am

Weapon Name: Cupidity

Weapon Type: Chain Whip

Quantity: One Pair

Description: Please see the various images for its appearance. This weapon is versatile in the way that it can be used for stabbing, as a projectile, trapping, and close-range sword fighting (essentially). The user has many options to attack their enemy just with this weapon.

Abilities: Being the Vice of Greed, this weapon's power increases as the amount of Ryo Hakumei has increases. In this way, the more Ryo Haku has, the more damage it can deal to his opponents. As his Ryo increases, the weight of the chain itself is increased when felt by anyone other than himself. Due to this increased weight, it does much more damage than what it would normally do. At Zero Ryo this weapon is at its normal state, anything more makes it more powerful. As for the piercing side of the weapon, its power is increased a well. With the Ryo, its sharpness and hardness increases.

For future reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-161956.html

Spreadsheet of Formulas(click)

History: Along with Chastity, Hakumei found this pair of weapons within the ashes of his dead parents. If he knew where his parents were sleeping as they burned to death he would know that his father in particular used this weapon while his mother would use Chastity.

Appearance:
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Kaguya Apocalypse
Kaguya Apocalypse
Male Posts : 280
Ryo : 11850

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue260/260Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (260/260)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 6:24 am

Nothing unreasonable. Approved.
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 12:39 pm

Denied.

Now Ryo to Power Ratio?

Blood absorbed to weight ratio?
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 1:57 pm

I have no clue, make a suggestion.
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 2:21 pm

=/ Hmm Sadly it all depends on you but one question, does your first ability ONLY increase sharpness and hardness?
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 2:34 pm

"As his Ryo increases, the weight of the chain itself is increased when felt by anyone other than himself"
So it's weight, sharpness and hardness.

Alright, how about: Since at zero ryo it is regular, at 2500 ryo it will be twice as powerful as a regular Katana considering that's the price, ne? But, uh, that's as far as I got.

As for blood to power ratio, I think it should just be 1:1 I don't want anything complicated with like 1:2 and have to come up with a reason for it.
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 2:40 pm

Isn't it blood to weight and Ryo to Sharpness & Hardness? Then add in the blood and weight Ratio for every liter absorbed = 1kg of weight is added. Think middy. But i believe you need a base to start with. Now lets put a negative sign to Greed Ryo ability as it believes your too poor.
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 2:46 pm

It's Ryo to weight, sharpness and hardness, but also blood to weight. As you can see, there's kind of a theme going on here. What do you mean by " Now lets put a negative sign to Greed Ryo ability as it believes your too poor." ? As I recall from your Vice, you don't list anything bad it does to you, nor what it does specifically. Apocalypse was wondering if your weapon would stop genjutsu, which led to the lack of chakra in our bodies(clan) and how exactly genjutsu would work with that.
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 2:55 pm

My weapon don't stop Genjutsu. I just cut Chakra. I do suggest you don't talk about my weapon here since we're discussing about yours. Hmm. Lets put a maximum to both abilities, your call for maximum. When i mean negative, it means greed has a lower power output until you reach certain amount of Ryo (I exclude the blood as it's a side ability). Furthermore, the blood you absorb will make you feel the weight or is it for both?
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 3:02 pm

Well I was using it as an example since you wanted something bad about my Vice. I figured the strongest of the deadly sins would have an example of that, but it didn't. I looked at Nobody's and his came with the ability. So really I'm at a loss here.

...I don't want a maximum, though it does make sense in some sense, but ah, are you saying I can satisfy the sin of Greed? I do understand that something can only get sooo sharp and sooo hard, but the description of the ability says it gets further and further powerful as long as the Ryo goes up.

The blood is felt by everyone including myself.
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

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Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 3:27 pm

My Strongest Deadly Sin didn't really add the abilities like yours since i am a genin but i intend to later on when i grow IC, you know have at least some plot to it.

Ok Blood is settled. Now onto the Ryo. No maximum huh? Now I've got a problem on how to judge the weight, sharpness & hardness, unless you can give a table or some kind of estimation or calculation.
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

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Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 5:24 pm

Hm, the way I made this will require me to always have at least 2500 ryo otherwise the formulas will break... At 2500 Ryo, it is set at twice the power of a katana. If you want to make any changes to it, go ahead and tell me.

I zipped two spreadsheets, depending on what kind of software you have. One is for Excel and the other is for Open Office. If you can't unzip it, I'll upload just the spreadsheets. Just tell me so.
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptyTue Jan 04, 2011 1:39 am

Hmm 2 times the power? How about 2500 it has the same power as a normal katana then at 5000 it'll be twice. That means for every 2500 Ryo you get an increase of x1, x2, x3, etc of the original. Same goes for the weight.

I dont get what you mean by absolute hardness and the sharpness though my friend, care to explain?
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

Character sheet
Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptyTue Jan 04, 2011 4:09 am

Alright, edited the spreadsheet.

Also, for future reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-161956.html

*Updated*(click)
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Kamui
Kamui
Male Posts : 889
Ryo : 39300

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Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue300/300Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (300/300)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptyTue Jan 04, 2011 4:36 am

Approved with a small amount as payment. 5000 Ryo.
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Hakumei Shinkirou
Hakumei Shinkirou
Male Posts : 799
Ryo : 2371000

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Chakra:
Cupidity Left_bar_bleue290/290Cupidity Empty_bar_bleue  (290/290)

Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 2:05 am

I accept the small payment and will now pay for it.
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Dominic
Dominic
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Cupidity Empty
PostSubject: Re: Cupidity   Cupidity EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 3:50 pm

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