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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:09 pm | |
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Kashaku Kagone
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:36 am | |
| Would Opacity cause you to become invisible even in rain/fog/water or other means?
What is the maximum number of mist servants one can make with the Mist Servant technique? Is there a maximum number of posts the genjutsu can last? And do Mist Servants appear anywhere within 1000 feet, or can the Mist Servants be outrun?
Illusion Blade... I'm not so sure about that. Normally, a genjutsu is either cast by eye contact (a small area "connected" with a small area) or on the environment (a large area "connected" with a large group). Making a sword that can cast whatever genjutsu you made handseals for would be a much larger area than normal to cast a genjutsu from. At the very least, it should be ranked instead of passive, maybe C or B-ranked. Otherwise, I'd have no idea how to price it...
Can the user or oppponent move while Consume is in effect?
Solid Mist Weapon is approved. 3500 ryo. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:57 am | |
| I'd still block the rain/fog/water if that's what you're asking. Like, a person would be able to see the absence of it, but they'd also see through it, so they would be able to see the space on the ground that isn't getting wet from where I'm standing.
Let's go with 3! The 1000 feet is the range in which the opponent must be so that it will start. Being a trick of the mind, the mist servants aren't actually there so really they can be anywhere. And, uh, no I don't really think they can be outrun...being just in their head and all.
Well, are you saying I need handseals to use the effect, then more handseals for the actual genjutsu? If so, that's not what I'm going for. I understand that it's increasing the area that would affect someone, that is its intent. I don't see why it needs a rank? (Other than your, uh, pricing thing)
No. I feel as if that makes me need to change things....
I agree, though I'm not buying ._. |
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Genin
Kashaku Kagone
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:21 pm | |
| Ahh, I see. Opacity is worth 4000 ryo.
No, seriously, some kind of maximum. And they might not outrun the actual genjutsu, but a fast enough ninja would probably be able to outrun the genjutsu user himself. Would the genjutsu simply follow them? I'm not sure that would make sense.
No, no, I'm saying you use handseals for the genjutsu, draw your sword, and cast a genjutsu from the sword itself. But Illusion Blade has to have some kind of drawback for increasing the area a genjutsu can be cast from. Perhaps it takes a certain percent more chakra to use the ability? I'd be fine with that. Maybe 1.5x what a normal genjutsu would cost?
If neither can move, that's perfectly fine as it is. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:26 pm | |
| Kay.
Well there are already maximums in the description. How about 50? I figure there's a point where it's basically just overkill. Feel free to change it. Considering Genjutsu is simply the user's chakra inside the opponent's mind, yes, it does make sense. Genjutsu is direct changing of the opponent's senses, this is very basic info ._.
So...I can't just buy an add-on that gives me this ability is what you're saying?
Nope, it's not fine as it is. What would needs to be changed to make it so that the user is free while the opponent is immobile? This jutsu is free range to be changed to fit that. |
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Genin
Kashaku Kagone
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 pm | |
| So, the genjutsu will continue creating Mist Servants until the genjutsu user stops the jutsu, even if the opponent is far out of range of the genjutsu user? I will allow you to use the jutsu without a post limit, because that's the way it seems to be in the anime and manga, but I think that if the opponent escapes, he will not be affected by the genjutsu in his/her next topic.
Not without some form of drawback. An opponent looking into your eyes means they have to be within a specific range to be able to see your eyes. To give that same ability to a sword increases the range massively.
That's why I said "If neither [the user nor the opponent] can move". I'm basically asking you to add that in, unless you would like to say that the opponent is kept still while you are free to move about. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| I agree with that.
It does indeed. Thinking especially of my weapon and use as even a trap I'll agree to making it cost more chakra.
Like I said, I told you what I want it to do. I'm asking you what needs to be changed to make it approvable. |
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Genin
Kashaku Kagone
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:20 pm | |
| Mist Servant is approved at 2500 ryo.
Add in the increase of chakra drain, and I'll let you have it for 5000 ryo. (About a middle price.)
I suppose it's still approvable if you can move and your opponent can't, but it would have to last only two posts, since it is high-ranking. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:04 pm | |
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Genin
Kashaku Kagone
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:33 pm | |
| Consume would be 9500 ryo. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:33 pm | |
| I'll take Mist Servant, Illusion Blade & Consume. 17000 RYO Total, 21600 After deduction. |
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Genin
Dominic
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:25 am | |
| Ryo Deducted. You may add them to your tech list |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:57 am | |
| Thank you, Dominic. Thank you, Kashaku. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:51 pm | |
| I'll take Opacity for 4k ryo, if you would please. |
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Genin
Dominic
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:24 am | |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:08 am | |
| I'd like to purchase Solid Mist Weapon at this time. 22,950 After Deduction. |
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Genin
Dominic
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:01 am | |
| Ryo Deducted. Add to to your list please |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:55 pm | |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:57 pm | |
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Akatsuka Kenshi
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:06 am | |
| Togu - So all attacks you performed are centered on the target for the duration of the technique, as well as another attack after the technique is finished?
Masochism - I see nothing wrong with this; approved. 4000 ryo. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:16 am | |
| - Akatsuka Kenshi wrote:
- Togu - So all attacks you performed are centered on the target for the duration of the technique, as well as another attack after the technique is finished?
It goes like this: 1st post (No Homing) Jutsu Usage (still not homed) Attack (hit) (still not homed) <- Initial hit after jutsu activation, must be done within window (Maybe) Attack (homed) 2nd post All attacks are Homed 3rd post All attacks are Homed Etc. post All attacks are Homed |
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Genin
Akatsuka Kenshi
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:21 am | |
| Is there anyway the target can evade the attacks? |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:29 am | |
| If an attack is homed in on a target, it will take the shortest route to get to the target. Say they're running the same speed as the attack and they hide behind a tree. Then the attack would hit the tree. That simple. |
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Genin
Akatsuka Kenshi
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:41 am | |
| Alrighty then. Edit that the honed attacks can be avoided by placing an object between the attack and the target.
Togu will then be approved at 6000 ryo. |
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Jounin
Hakumei Shinkirou
| Subject: Re: Shinkirou, Hakumei (Jutsu Registration) Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:48 am | |
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